RIP Chris Benoit (WWE)

I spit on your grave.....orka,,,

At 9PM EST CNN-TV reported that the Benoit family death is being investigated and classified as a Homicide.

FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. (AP) -- Authorities said professional wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and child were found slain Monday at their Fayette County home.

död är död, spelar roll. Mord är fortfarande mord oavsett om det är en snubbe i tights eller du och din familj.

uuhm ni vet väl att alla sources till detta går tillbaka till WWEs hemsida och att WWE alltid gör nånting så här när en brottare går i pension? De gör alltid så bara för att göra det lite mer dramatiskt...

ooh j*vla svin det finns härinne på forumet

jag hade velat spotta, pissa, skita o spy på din grav oxå :@

RIP Chris Benoit, BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER EVER TO STEP INTO THE RING

According to lead investigator Lt. Tommy Pope, of the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department, in Fayetteville, Ga., the deaths of WWE Superstar Chris Benoit, wife Nancy and son Daniel were the result of a double murder-suicide, WWE.com has learned.

Benoit failed to appear both at Saturday’s live event in Beaumont, Tx., and WWE’s Vengeance: Night of Champions in Houston Sunday night, after informing WWE of a family emergency. Several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning prompted concerned friends to alert Richard Hering, VP of Government Relations for WWE, Inc. Hering, in turn, spoke with Fayette County sheriffs Monday, and requested that they respond to the Benoit residence to check on him and his family.

Authorities representing the Sheriff’s Department initially had a difficult time entering Benoit’s new Fayetteville home Monday afternoon, which had been guarded by two large German Shepherds roaming freely around the property. Once authorities entered the residence, they quickly located the bodies of Benoit, Nancy and Daniel. WWE was notified of the discovery at approximately 4 p.m.

At 10 p.m. Monday night, Lt. Pope held a press conference in conjunction with Scott Ballard, the district attorney for Fayette County. The press conference officially ruled authorities’ findings as a double murder-suicide from within the home.

WAGA, a FOX-owned and operated television station in Atlanta, reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son over the weekend, then himself on Monday.

The three bodies have been received by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s crime lab, in Decatur, Ga., where autopsies will be performed Tuesday morning. Toxicology reports will not become available for at least two weeks.

WWE.com has further information relating to both the investigation and the cause of death, but the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department has requested that WWE.com not release any additional details at this time.

Anabola is a hell of a drug... Eller fanns det någon annan rimlig anledning till att han tog livet av sin egen familj?

Fan vad illa!

RIP Chris Benoit!

jag kan knappt tro att det är sant. inte nog med att han har gått bort, men polisen misstänker, som sagt, att det rör sig om ett dubbelmord samt självmord. sjukt. det var illa nog när eddie allt för tidigt lämnade världen.

mest synd är det om frun och barnet om misstankarna stämmer. riktigt tragiskt.

Visste inte Eddie gått bort? Hur gick det till?

Riktigt tragiskt att en av de brottare man alltid haft en enbart positiv bild av ska bort på det här sättet. Det blir svårt att minnas Chris med den heder han förtjänar efter något sånt här. Förutsatt att misstankarna stämmer.

Vilka var med på finlandsresan 2005? (de som åkte viking line)

Sjukt...

Benoit var en av de största helt klart. Riktigt tragiskt...

*Räcker upp handen*

Back-in-town: jag var oxå med på den resan, min grupp var på typ 20 pers som reste tillsammans och hade hur roligt som helst. Benoit var såklart höjdpunkten.

Chris Benoit var en oerhörd viktig person för mig. Han har lärt mig otroligt mkt om livet, att aldrig sluta kämpa, att alltid ta för sig och visa att man kan om man vill. Han var lojal och mkt älskad bland vänner och ställde alltid upp för dem. För mig är han en hjälte. Vet inte var på vägen det gick fel, men något stämmer inte.

1: wwe gör drogtester ofta (bla randy orton har åkt fast i dom flera gånger o blivit avstängd från tv osv)  och
2: han såg ner på folk som använde steroider, det var emot hans egna principer.

något mkt sjukt måste ha hänt denna man. det första som poppade upp i mitt huvud för en timme sedan när jag fick veta var : någon har mördat dom och framat honom för det. men hur sannolikt är det liksom...

fan var livet är orättvist, hur kan en sådan tragedi hända, speciellt en sån människa. han gav allt till fansen, han gav 100% varje match även om han gick tex 4 matcher i veckan, i olika städer.

Han var min favorit, och han fick mig att vilja brottas, för att ge tillbaka lite av det han gett mig. Nu vill jag bara att ljuset slocknar, stänga av ett tag. Mina drömmar bröts itu. Min värld har skakats om. Min största förebild finns inte mer.

DIVING HEADBUTT

hehe

Inte ens en riktig sport för i helvete.. bollywood.se

LumiLicious...no shit Sherlock...

Lumilicious: so what? dom är lika mkt människor ändå. skådisar är oxå töntiga, dom fejkar ju oxå. men håna inte folk som dött tack.

Princess
Skådisar orkar man iallafall titta på, och det blir faktiskt något utav deras skådespeleri.

Och sen kan du aldrig jämföra skådespelare med fake punches och massa yelling n spittin. Kolla bara vad det blir av dem, MÖRDARE!

Justshootme P5
&
LumiLicious P18

Vad gör ni i den här tråden över huvud taget? ni två kan dra käpprätt åt helvete!

för det första vem fan är ni två att pissa på en underhållningsform som är fullt legetim och som drar till sig enorma skaror fans? Det finns dom som hävdar att hip hop är destruktivt och bara drar fram det sämsta inom folk. Så att någon som hänger på ett hip hop forum dissar wrestling för vad det nu må vara är för mig helt ofattbart.

för det andra. Det här handlar om en oerhört stor wrestling profil och hans privata familjetragedi. Hans fans världen över är skakade, det finns fans till han i sverige det finns fans till han i den här tråden. Ge fan i att pissa på han ni vet ju för fan inte ett skit om han.

för det tredje. att säga en sak som att det blir mördare av alla wrestlare är ju helt bananas. trippel mord + självmord hände saturday night komikern phill hartman för x antal år sedan, det var hans fru som drog ner hela familjen i döden där, men man säger väl inte för den sakens skull att alla komikerfruar blir mördare för det? Man säger inte heller att alla komikerfamiljer är så vrickade att komik i sig är en hjärndöd form av underhållning?

för det fjärde. är det bara i usa sånt här händer? har nån av er läst en tidning det senaste tio åren? vet ni vad som händer runt om i världen alls? har ni sett våldsbrott och sinnesrubbade människor som skadar sina familjer i sverige? jo det finns det faktiskt gott om om man klarar av att läsa en normal morgontidning, eller varför inte se en normal nyhetssändning på tv?

för det femte. vem fan är ni att dömma han överhuvudtaget? mord är fel det är korrekt så, men vad vet ni om vilka demoner han hade? vad vet ni om vilka förhållanden det rådde i hans liv? ni vet inte ett skit. Han gjorde skit i slutet på sitt liv, det är helt säket, ingen argumenterar emot det, men vem fan är ni att sätta er till doms över nånting ni inte har den blekaste aning om.

Visa respekt en familjetragedi av oerhörda propertioner har ägt rum. Tråden är till för de som bryr sig, om man inte bryr sig, skit ner er och skapa en annan tråd där ni kan sätta er till doms över saker ni inte vet ett skit om, men gör det för helvete inte här!

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris_Benoit
He did it for the lulz

Inte så insatt i wrestling och Chris Benoit, kul för alla som är det och jag respekterar alla som har han som förebild här inne etc etc.

Men dödar snubben sin familj och sen tar sitt eget liv så kan jag tyvär inte visa empati och förståelse och säga rip till snubben, hur fan i helvete tänker man då!!??

RIP till frun och sonen och till familjen runt om som skakas av denna hemska tragedi.

Jag förstår att ni sörjer. Absolut. Och det är jävligt bra att ni är så pass engagerade att ni gör det. Gillar när folk brinner för nåt.


Har precis läst att polisen funnit nålmärken på sonen och misstänker att Benoit sprutat i honom steroider under en tid. Samt att han inte dödade familjen samtidigt utan under olika dagar vilket gör historien ännu mer morbid. Frågan är väl vart ansvarsgränsen går - var Benoit en sadist eller kan man skylla helt på anabolan? Ni känner honom bättre än jag - vad tror ni?

Och vad tänker wrestlingvärlden göra nu för att eliminera anabola bland sina brottare?

reina: Dags att sluta plocka "fakta" från AB och andra sensationsblaskor i stil med det.

Vill du ha reda på saker och ting så besök siter som avhandlar wrestling.

Vad gäller hans son så led han av något som heter fragile-x syndrome, och dom tillväxtshormoner man hittade i huset var utskrivna på recept.

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Läs följande stycken i sin helhet ni som vill veta mer.

"This will be the most horrifying story I hopefully will ever have to write.

Chris Benoit killed his wife Nancy and seven year old son Daniel this week.

I knew Chris Benoit. I first met him in the mid 90s and talked to him every now and then, usually about once every few months, but sometimes, like after Eddy Guerrero died, pretty regularly.

When you read in the paper that someone went and killed their wife and their seven year old child, or they shot up a school or raped and defiled someone, you usually hear folks say one of two things; either that everyone should have seen this coming or that this is utterly impossible, because the guy was the nicest guy you could ever hope to meet.

I always thought Chris Benoit was the nicest guy you could ever hope to meet.

Chris Benoit always finished conversations by saying, "Take care!" He was devastated by Eddy Guerrero's death. He used to keep a journal. He'd write to Eddy in it. He said he knew Eddy couldn't read it, but it helped him get through everything. He wrote every day.

I talked to him just a few months ago, before WrestleMania. He wanted the address of a guy that made wrestling belts. He sat there and talked about what an awesome person Booker T was, and how he wanted to buy an expensive WCW replica title and give it to him as a gift.

One day he asked for my address. He ended up sending me a chair from the PPV where Eddy Guerrero won the WWE Title. There was also a really nice note in there. I showed it to my buddy Vinny, and I remember at the time we thought, "How could a man so great be so nice?" It seemed impossible.

So apparently it was.

I first heard about this at approximately 3:30 PM or so Monday afternoon. Admin Tony had seen the initial WWE.com story, which only said that Benoit and his family were dead. I immediately knew it was not a work, but prayed that the site had been hacked. After about ten minutes, it was clear that was not the case. I got official confirmation from WWE about an hour later.

Benoit, prior to this incident, was among the most respected members of the WWE locker room. He grew up idolizing Dynamite Kid, and in the end he had a whole generation of young wrestlers that grew up idolizing him. Everyone wanted to work with him, everyone wanted to work like him, and thus when it was discovered that the entire family was dead, everyone immediately tried to figure out a "best case scenario".

Perhaps someone broke in and killed them.

Perhaps there was a gas leak.

Perhaps his wife and son had suffered some sort of horrible accident, and Benoit, despondent, killed himself.

As it turns out, what really happened was probably a worse case scenario than anyone could have possibly imagined. Benoit missed a house show this weekend and told WWE that there was a family emergency that he needed to tend to. Over the next few days, he sent a number of text messages to different people, including Chavo Guerrero, who he was very close to and had recently spent time at his home. One of the texts alerted the individuals that his doors were open and his two dogs were outside.

On Monday afternoon, the individuals who had received the text messages alerted WWE. Nobody had spoken to him personally since Saturday. Local investigators were called and asked to please do a welfare check on Benoit's home, due to the fact that he had missed some out of state work. Police entered the premises and found the three bodies in various states of decomposition. Based on the states, they were able to determine with a fair degree of certainty who died when.

Benoit's last television match took place at the ECW TV tapings on June 19th. He beat Elijah Burke to gain the opportunity to face CM Punk for the vacant title at Vengeance on Sunday. The plan was for him to win the belt. There were people concerned Sunday about the fact that he hadn't shown up, and the voice messages earlier in the weekend were considered weird, but because the Chris Benoit everyone thought they knew was not the kind of guy who could do any harm to himself or his family it was not considered an emergency situation. Joey Styles made the announcement that he was out due to a family issue and sounded concerned, but then the show moved on.

After police found the bodies, WWE immediately put the news up on their website. That night's Raw was scheduled to be a three-hour "Tribute to Mr. McMahon", built around his storyline death and including a number of wacky segments. Apparently the company had learned the week prior that trying to handle the storyline death seriously was not what anyone wanted, and they were moving in a different direction. I believe the plan was that at the end of the show, Inspector Beck or whatever his name was would come out and arrest Linda McMahon on suspicion of planting the car bomb.

As noted last week, WWE had strongly considered dropping the angle after Sherri Martel died. In the end, they decided to continue it, but once Benoit and his family were found dead all plans were thrown right out the window. Vince called a meeting in the afternoon and told everyone that police had discovered the family dead. Either he had no other details or he chose not to announce them at the moment. Most likely he was aware that the belief was that Benoit had killed them all, but, like everyone else, was holding out hope that something less awful had occurred.

The wrestlers were devastated. The decision was quickly made to cancel the live Raw show and reschedule it for sometime in July. Many of the wrestlers were sequestered to tape quick tributes.

I'll be honest. I did not watch the show. I really have no plans to. I know that Vince McMahon came out and explained that the idea was to continue his death storyline, but that was now all over. I believe they played most of Benoit's DVD, and that the wrestlers were largely devastated in their tributes. I'm told that William Regal made no comments about Benoit as a person, only talking about his in-ring performances. My feeling is that a few guys figured something really bad had happened, and everyone else was holding out hope for "the best". The two individuals who received text messages were identified as "C" (Chavo) and "S". Benoit and Regal, who many in the business still call "Steve Regal" (his WCW moniker), were very close, and it is believe at this point that "S" was Regal, that he had a gut feeling Benoit had done it, and that this is why his tribute came out the way it did.

It was during the live show that word started leaking out that this was an unimaginable tragedy. The show still aired on the West Coast, though it was pretty clear by the time it was over what had happened.

What had happened, according to the lead investigator at the Tuesday noon EST press conference, was that Chris Benoit pinned wife Nancy face-down on the ground with his knee in her back and choked her to death with a cord. Blood on her head and bruises on her torso indicated a struggle, and her hands and feet were bound. Benoit at some point afterwards, perhaps even the next day, suffocated Daniel in his bedroom. There were no signs of struggle found. He left Bibles near both bodies. At some point after that, he went into his weight room and hung himself with cables from a pulldown machine. The timeline is not one hundred percent set in stone as of press time. Right now it is believed that he killed Nancy Friday, Daniel Saturday, and himself early Sunday morning. They are awaiting toxicology reports, which could take up to two weeks. No note was found at the scene of the crime. Legal pill prescriptions were found at the residence, as were steroids and steroid prescriptions.

The DA noted that Benoit had been arrested for a DUI in the county, but not for domestic abuse. He said he could not confirm reports that Benoit had abused Nancy or that she had filed for divorce several years back (which was reported elsewhere). He said with the evidence they had, no motive could be determined.

Once the steroid part of the story came out, the mainstream jumped all over it. I did an interview for CBS Evening News that ended up being cut out (it was taped prior to the press conference so everything was pretty much immediately outdated), and that was the angle they were most interested in. Over the course of the afternoon, many outlets had stories suggesting that ROID RAGE had been responsible.

Here's the reality as I know it. Chris Benoit had probably taken steroids for almost his entire career. He broke in during a period where you couldn't be a star at 5-8, and his idol was Dynamite Kid, who was juiced to the gills and ultimately paid a heavy price for it (he's currently wheelchair-bound and destitute). Benoit was gigantic for most of his career, and I can only remember one time, in the late 90s in WCW, that for whatever reason he shrunk down. He was the first guy to call me after WWE had the locker room meeting announcing the institution of a Wellness Policy after the death of Eddy Guerrero, wondering if I knew what the hell was going on. I said he probably should have known more than I did, but apparently all he knew was what we all saw on WWE.com. I was told that when he went down for neck surgery and was going to be off TV for a full year, he refused to come off the steroids for fear of shrinking up. I was also told that he and Nancy had fought over the steroid issue many times in the past. In 2007, he was a 40-year-old man who was 5-9 and 220 pounds (though legal documents claimed as high as 250) with less than 10% bodyfat, and he was built like that despite being on the road 200 days a year. Physiologically, that's impossible.

But the reality is also that steroids have been a part of this business for decades. Wrestlers have been on steroids since at least the 1960s, and probably earlier, and you don't hear about them going nuts and killing their wives and children. You hear about them dying early of enlarged organs, but not double homicide/suicides. To place the blame on steroids is horribly simplistic. My personal belief, and I've been asked this question a million times as always happens when something seemingly senseless happens, is that Chris Benoit was a guy who for whatever reason had it in him to kill two human beings. Period. Steroids probably didn't help. It probably also didn't help that he worked a very hard style over a period of many years and may have developed some sort of brain trauma. I remember shortly after the Virginia Tech massacre I listened to a radio show that interviewed a guy who had dealt with the bodies of many serial killers and mass murderers. He said almost without exception, every single one of them had some sort of brain issue, whether it be damage from an accident, a lesion, etc. Benoit's trademark move was the diving headbutt, he did multiple German suplexes night after night for years, and he took hard bumps in hard rings. I would not be in the least bit surprised to learn that something in his brain was fucked up, and that, combined with steroids and the psychological profile, lead to this disaster.

WWE immediately went on the offensive:


WWE® Shocked At Latest Developments In Benoit Tragedy, Concerned By Sensationalistic Reporting Tuesday June 26, 5:51 pm ET STAMFORD, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--World Wrestling Entertainment (NYSE: WWE - News) is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel. However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide: 1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions. 2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit's state of mind, and rightly did not do so. 3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative. 4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage. 5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts. WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.

They also announced that Vince McMahon was going to apologize for the three-hour Raw tribute show at the beginning of ECW. This was also the source of much controversy Tuesday, as news reporters learned that WWE had produced this show for a double murderer. To me, I cannot fault WWE for this, because I was following the situation very closely and talking with people in WWE, and when Raw went on the air live there were still tons of questions. To WWE's credit, they did pull the show from international broadcast on Tuesday. They also removed all of the video tributes from WWE.com. In fact, aside from the news stories about the tragedies, the company proceeded to remove everything about Benoit from the entire website. All of his pages were deleted, everything involving him vanished, and they even scratched his name off line-ups for DVDs that they're selling. In WWE, as of Tuesday night June 26, he no longer exists.

Nancy Benoit, formerly Nancy Sullivan and Nancy Daus, performed under the stage name Woman for years. In a very famous story, her husband and WCW booker at the time Kevin Sullivan put Benoit and Nancy together in storyline. In order to convince people that the two were really a couple, he booked them together on the road and in hotel rooms. As is often the case in this business, storyline became reality, and Nancy separated from Sullivan and married Benoit in 2000 after living together for three years. Earlier that year, during a whirlwind weekend when Sullivan ended up back in power, Benoit, feeling he would never get a fair shake, quit the company. He, along with Eddy Guerrero, Dean Malenko and Perry Saturn, were shockingly given releases and headed to WWE. This effectively tore the heart out of WCW and was one of the many nails in the coffin.

According to a legal filing, Nancy filed for a separation and protection order (which is issued by a judge and enforceable by cops and gives you more rights than a typical restraining order) on May 12, 2003. She received temporary custody of Daniel and Chris was told to pay $5,000 per month in child support. She said she feared for her personal safety and for the safety of her child. Benoit was ordered to take a "batterer's intervention program" and undergo an evaluation for drug and alcohol abuse and follow the treatment recommendations.

"The defendant is a professional wrestler and considerably larger and stronger than the petitioner," the filing stated. "The respondent lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture and furnishings. Petitioner is in reasonable fear for Petitioner's own safety and/or the safety of the minor children. At other times the respondent has committed other such acts, including, but not limited to (approximate dates and what happened) threatening the petitioner and destroying the furniture and furnishings at the home of the parties. There is substantial likelihood that the Respondent will commit such acts of violence against the petitioner and minor children in the immediate future if relief is not granted as provided pursuant to OCGA 19-3-4."

She filed to dismiss everything on August 19, 2003.

On Tuesday I was misquoted in an article. A reporter asked me if anyone knew what had happened. This was around 4:45 PM. I said no. I don't know if we were talking about marital issues earlier, but he ended up quoting me as saying that nobody really knew anything about any marital issues. Someone in WWE quickly contacted me through a third party outraged that I could have started any rumors of that nature. This person said he knew Chris very well dating back to his WCW debut and that the couple was very happy and not having any issues. As it turns out, he was wrong. But the point is that even Benoit's close friends knew nothing about what was going on at home. Over the last few days, I've heard a lot of stories, most of them horrible, as it pertains to what happened in the last year or so, but I'd rather wait until those details came out elsewhere before reporting them.

No one knows where to go from here or what is going on. As noted several times over the past several weeks, everyone in the company is utterly burned out. The schedule this past month was too much for them. Two live PPVs, all of the usual TV, a Saturday Night's Main Event, and two three-hour Raws. It's impossible to create quality programming with that much quantity, but they tried. Something like this never happens at a "good time", but I can't even think of a worse time for everyone in the company. The only plan on Tuesday prior to the announcement that Vince was going to apologize was that Raw and Smackdown were going to be basic wrestling shows this week, no angles, and that TV would return as usual on Monday with Raw.

It should be noted that the apology announcement was caused in part by USA Network's insistence. They were deluged with complaints Tuesday from fans who couldn't believe the company had paid tribute to a child killer. This brings to mind a possibility that has been discussed in the past few days, that being the potential if this really explodes for USA Network or the CW to cancel the show.

The possibility is remarkably slim and I don't expect it to happen. However, PRIDE was the biggest MMA company in the world for years, and one major scandal caused them to lose their Fuji TV slot, and in less than a year they were dead. It's not unheard of in America for a TV or radio station to cancel a show or fire a major name host due to a public outcry. It probably won't happen in this case, but we've also never seen anything like this before and it's impossible to predict what will happen.

They key is that the last major mainstream story was the death of Eddy Guerrero. This was a great tragedy, and of course there was much talk about steroids and growth hormone. WWE at the time had an out -- they instituted a Wellness Policy. Now when I say "an out", I don't want people to misinterpret that. Unlike Benoit, who was a very private person, Eddy Guerrero was outgoing and honest and beloved by everyone in the company. When he died, you had wrestlers questioning their own mortality, noting that this guy had taken stuff that they had either taken in the past or were currently taking, and they could very well be next. You also had management which honestly did not ever want to see anyone die again. When it was announced, the company was deadly serious about it. Deadly serious. If you watched the TV, you could see guys shrinking week by week before your eyes. But the reality is that the only reason it lasted as long as it did was because Eddy was so beloved. The wrestling business has seen so many deaths of major name stars that it has become desensitized to death. For as long as I have been doing this newsletter people have called me and only half-jokingly asked, "Did anyone die today?" That's the sad reality of this business. Within three months, thoughts of mortality gave way to thoughts of physical pain (steroids help the joints feel better and such) and the psychological issues related to not being a larger than life character anymore, and having to work even harder in the gym and on your diet to look half as good as you used to.

The Wellness Policy still exists, believe it or not. The rules have just changed. No longer are guys taken off TV or house shows. They're merely fined or docked pay and they continue to work so that nobody has to know who failed. When you think about it, if your body is worth a $1 million per year contract, and nobody is ever going to know whether you pass or fail a test, it may be a situation where guys are willing to lose a month's pay or whatever because they may feel that in the end, eleven months of main event pay is better than twelve months of mid-card or lower pay. There is also the loophole that you are OK if the steroids are prescribed for legitimate medical reasons (though many guys seem to be on things that doctors are not legally allowed to prescribe for any reason), and that testosterone to epitestosterone levels can be as high as 10:1 before a person automatically fails. A normal human is at 1:1, and an Olympic failure is 6:1. Basically, as is the case in all sports today, drug tests are basically IQ tests. If you have a brain, you can find a way around the system, especially if it's a system set up to curb "abuse", but hopefully allow guys to not completely shrink down to the point where they look like someone in the crowd.

So as mentioned, WWE had an "out", when Eddy died, the institution of the Wellness Policy. Now, they have nothing. Chris Benoit was found with steroids in his house and it's almost certain that his toxicology reports will reveal not only steroids in his system, but the classic wrestler issues, morbidly enlarged organs. When Benoit died, it took hours for any mainstream news outlets to jump on the story. Likely, they saw the graphic up on WWE.com and figured it was all a storyline due to WWE.com doing the exact same thing two weeks prior when Vince's limo supposedly blew up. It was the boy who cried wolf. And ironically, they are once again the boy who cried wolf if their defense to steroid allegations is that they have a Wellness Policy and that Benoit tested "negative", whatever that means, in April. Basically, they will be claiming that he was on steroids but still "negative", which sure makes the Wellness Policy look like a joke.

Smackdown was not an angle-free show, but no mention was made live of Benoit. I cannot confirm at this point whether anything was said in commentary. I do know that when people started arriving at the building, there were Benoit signs everywhere. By the time the show ended and they set up for ECW, nearly every single sign had been confiscated.

McMahon opened the show with the following statement: "Last night on Monday Night Raw, the WWE presented a special tribute show, recognizing the career of Chris Benoit. However, now some 26 hours later, the facts of this horrific tragedy are now apparent. Therefore, other than my comments, there will be no mention of Mr. Benoit tonight. On the contrary, tonight's show will be dedicated to everyone who has been affected by this terrible incident. This evening marks the first step of the healing process. Tonight, the WWE performers will do what they do better than anyone else in the world--entertain you."

Everyone always asks the question after someone dies. Will anything change? The answer is always no, because this is the wrestling business and people always die, and even when guys like Eddy Guerrero die, and he hit everyone harder than anyone else outside of Owen Hart, the wrestling world ultimately just keeps turning the way it always has. In this situation though, I think things are going to change. I don't know how. I'm not even saying they will change for the better. But this is far and away the biggest mainstream wrestling story of all time, and I suspect it is going to blow open doors. Every hardcore fans knows that this is a fucked up business that sometimes turns out fucked up people, and is such based on schedule and other factors that it chews many people up and spits out their bodies. The under-50 deaths are staggering. And the mainstream has always sort of known, at least in the past few years. But now they're going to know a whole hell of a lot more, and I have no idea what the long-term affect is going to be. I don't know if the government will pursue regulation, I don't know how WWE will react, I don't know how networks will react and I don't know how fans will react. Nothing like this has ever happened before and it's only been one day, and I have no idea how much bigger it will get. If a world war breaks out tomorrow, sure, this will probably quickly be forgotten or pushed aside. But Paris Hilton got out of jail, and no matter what you think about the coverage of that story the reality is that the coverage was absurdly large, and her getting released ultimately took a back seat Tuesday to the pro wrestler who killed his family. Plus, the more details that come out, the more shocking the story gets, and the more shocking it gets the more the media is going to jump all over it. And I'm afraid there are still some very shocking details yet to be released.

I've covered this business for over a decade and I can barely bring myself to type that this death might cause some sort of change. It's seemingly absurd. Quite frankly, the reason it's absurd, the reason it's so unlikely is because unless there is a strong movement from the outside, unless the government forces change, we will have to rely on Vince McMahon, and he's not changing. This is not necessarily a knock on Vince, because he is taking some undeserved shots these past few days and has been praised internally for the way he's been dealing with a very stressful situation. But this is a man whose father and grandfather were promoters, and he's been brought up to believe that big bodies equal big money. People have suggested a wrestling off-season, which would give wrestlers time to recharge their batteries, heal up, perhaps come off any drug cycles they might happen to be on, etc. Unfortunately, there has never been an off-season in WWWF, WWF or WWE, so convincing McMahon to make that change would be tough. Another scenario is to institute personal off-seasons for talent, so that they can be rotated out in periods where other wrestlers would be rotated in. This would also greatly freshen up booking. But again, this is not how it's ever been done, and even if it were instituted, I can't fathom Vince shelving a few stars if it's time for their off-season but they happen to be super hot. Shawn Michaels is out until the fall because he kept putting off surgeries, not wanting to desert the company when he was hot and they needed them. You could suggest drug testing, but that's clearly a joke, or would, like with Guerrero, become a joke after a few months. There absolutely needs to be EKG and MRI work done regularly, and if guys fail, their careers need to end. Perhaps WWE could start some sort of pension, not in the six figures, but enough for a normal human being to live comfortably. Of course, that's asking WWE to pay guys to not work, and that's expecting guys to accept not only being taken off TV and the road, but to accept that along with a huge pay cut. Unions have been talked about for years, and that's never come close to fruition. The reality is that there are many potential solutions, but all solutions require major changes to be instituted by Vince McMahon. The problem is that he's a 61 year old man, and asking him to change a way of thinking that has been instilled in him since likely the day he was born is going to be a virtually impossible task. The only way things will change is via some sort of outside force. Never before has there been much of a chance of that happening with WWWF/WWF/WWE, but things have hit a new level with this story and that makes even tomorrow's developments impossible to predict.

Late breaking news just before going to press. Benoit was listed as a former customer of MedXLife, an internet company based in south Florida that was implicated in a New York investigation of illegal steroid sales. The DA confirmed that he'd been a customer "as recently as last year", and that the co-owners plead guilty to charges of helping get prescriptions drugs for individuals who had no medical need for them.

WWE.com also released a Chris Benoit timeline. It claimed that on Saturday, Benoit was scheduled to appear at the WWE house show in Beaumont, TX, but that afternoon he told the company that his wife and child were ill and that he would be late to the event. He was said to have sounded tired and groggy. He claimed he overslept. He called another person, and at the end of the call said, "I love you," which the person said was out of context. This person was concerned and called Benoit, who did not answer. Benoit called back a few minutes later and said he had been rebooking his flight and was stressed because his wife and child were ill. Another co-worker said Benoit told him that Nancy was throwing up blood and Daniel was sick, and he suspected food poisoning. At 6:10 PM Saturday night, Benoit spoke to a member of Talent Relations about the flight to Beaumont. It was determined that he couldn't make it to the show on time, and he apologized, saying he was having a family emergency. About a half hour earlier he'd talked to I believe the same person and stated that he was in the hospital with Nancy and Daniel and Daniel was throwing up. Benoit was told not to worry about the show that night, but to rest up and be ready for the PPV the next day in Houston. This was apparently the last voice communication he had with anyone. Early Sunday morning, between 3:51 and 3:58 AM, Benoit sent the following text messages. From his phone to two co-workers at 3:53 AM: "My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215". From his phone to two co-workers at 3:53 AM: "The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open". From Nancy's phone to two co-workers: "My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215". I should note that this is a different physical address than I had for him on file for Figure Four Weekly. From Nancy's phone to two co-workers at 3:55 AM: "My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215." And from Nancy's phone to one co-worker at 3:58 AM: "My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215". It is very likely that Benoit was basically telling people to check the house, and that he killed himself moments after sending these texts. WWE.com said that throughout the day Sunday WWE attempted to get hold of him both at home and at Atlanta hospitals, but heard nothing. At 12:30 PM on Monday, "WWE officials were notified of the text messages sent to the co-workers the previous day." I cannot confirm this, but the belief was that it was a problem with the cell phone provider delivering the messages late. Within fifteen minutes, WWE had contacted police in Fayetteville, asking them to check the residence. "Fayetteville County Sheriffs office made contact with WWE at approximately 4:00 p.m. advising that they had entered the house of Chris Benoit and found three deceased bodies - an adult male, adult female and a male child. WWE was told that Benoit's home was now considered a major crime scene. The decision to cancel the live event scheduled in Corpus Christi that night was made between 4:00 and 5:00 p.m. In keeping with company policy, and with limited knowledge regarding facts of the case, WWE choose to air a memorial dedicated to the career of Chris Benoit. As facts emerged surrounding the case, all tributes to Chris Benoit were removed both on-air and on WWE.com."

ESPN.com reported: "In an interview with ESPN.com on Tuesday, Ballard indicated that the boy had needle marks in his arms. The district attorney said he believed that the boy had been given growth hormones for some time because the family considered him undersized." This horrifying detail reminded me of a story from another ill-fated family, the Von Erich's. Chris Von Erich, the smallest member of the family, was according to one source diagnosed with some form of dwarfism or related disease, and told he would likely not end up taller than five and a half feet or so. Fritz, the wrestling patriarch, used his connections to get a doctor to provide Chris human growth hormone. Kerry, who was jacked to the gills, wanted the GH for bodybuilding purposes and traded with Chris for prescription pills and other drugs. Both Kerry and Chris, along with brother Mike, ultimately committed suicide. At press time, we do not know whether Daniel had been prescribed GH or whether Benoit and/or Nancy procured the drugs on their own. Ballard did say, "The boy was very small, even dwarfed", which indicates the drugs were prescribed for legitimate medical usage. There was also an article that quote Pam Winthrope of Delta, Vancouver, who claimed she knew the Benoit family through a support group for victims of Fragile X syndrome, an inherited mental impairment. She claimed Daniel had Fragile X, and that she had also seen first-hand how the disease could tear families apart. None of this information was confirmed at press time. - figure four weekly newsletter.

Brian Alwarez -

""But Christopher Nowinski, a former professional wrestler who worked with Mr. Benoit, and who was forced to quit because of head injuries, said he believed that repeated, untreated concussions might have caused his friend to snap.

"He was one of the only guys who would take a chair shot to the back of the head," Mr. Nowinski said, "which is stupid."


Mr. Nowinski has written a book called "Head Games: Football's Concussion Crisis" (Drummond Publishing Group, 2006), about chronic traumatic encephalopathy, a condition that can cause memory loss, depression and "bizarre, paranoid behavior."

Mr. Nowinski said that he had been trying to persuade the coroner examining Mr. Benoit to allow a brain exam to look for the telltale neurofibrillary tangles in the brain's cortex, but that he had thus far been rebuffed.

"Part of me hopes there was something wrong with his brain," Mr. Nowinski said. "The Chris Benoit I knew was always more concerned about everybody else's well-being than his own.""

Dave Meltzer -

It's such a complex issue, but there are two different Chris Benoits, I think that's the key, because the one thing is is that the Chris Benoit that we all knew was not this guy, but this guy did change in the last year and I believe -- there's many issues -- but it was the preponderance of dealing with many deaths led to increased drug use and I think it drove him crazy.

But at the same time, there were seeds of this early because you look at the 2003 thing where Nancy got the protection order against him so it does go back before the death of Eddie Guerrero, the death of Johnny Grunge, the death of Victor Mar all in a seven week period, and I really look at that as the turning point of Chris's life where he lost his best friend, he lost his best friend in Japan, and he lost the guy that would make him laugh when he was in the worst mood possible.

It affects everyone, but the deaths affect Chris really bad, and I'm not just talking about those three guys, but if you look at from Davey Boy and Owen and Brian Pillman and Larry Cameron even though Larry Cameron was years ago, but if you look at guys that Chris was close with, even Stu even though Stu was old. The list is really long and I just think that that depression from all of that, you know a 40 year old guy. They were closer to him than to most people. Brian Hildebrand is another one. So many of his closest friends, most of his closest friends had passed away at a young age. And I am not making any excuses for what happened, but I am saying that these were the things to a guy who had a very dark side.

Chris loved professional wrestling, but at the same time he was not stupid, and I think that that was an inner conflict as well. I think that all of these deaths had to tell him that there was something horrible, even though he would always say you cannot blame wrestling, the fact is that he had to at some point go, what's happening here yet at the same time he loved wrestling so deeply and a lot of other things led to more and more paranoia. Chris had gotten incredibly paranoid about everything and his drug usage had upped most likely over the last couple of months. Everyone pins the point from Eddie and those other two deaths.

Läs samtliga, det ger en rätt klar bild över varför åtminstonne.

naero: sjukt intressant! Synd att du levererade informationen som en sur unge - det förstörde lite för mig. Hittade för övrigt informationen på en amerikansk sida och mycket av det jag skrev återges i det du postade.

reina: Är spyless på alla idioter som vinklar fakta och lägger till egna påhitt och spekulationer, och nej inte en enda av dom vanliga standard medierna har lyckats fått all fakta rätt. därav jag hänvisade till Alvarez,Meltzer och figure four som alla har extremt god insyn i denna bransch.

..han är fortfarande en mördare.

För i helveteeeeeeee.. MÖRDA SIN SON? PÅ 7 ÅR? DETTA ÄR ER IDOL?

lumi: detta VAR vår idol. ingen sägeratt det var bra gjort, vi tycker det är tragiskt, o är chockade över att nån vi såg upp till har gjort detta. man vet inte riktigt hur man ska agera. om sin mamma gör nåt hemskt så älskar man henne ändå, det är sin mamma. ja är väldigt splittrad just nu, han var min förebild o nu är han ett monster. vad är då jag?

Hur i helvete kan ni sitta och hedra och försvara en människa som först tagit livet av sin familj och sen sig själv? Idioti.

Skulle Jay-Z flippa loss och köra en road rage mot ett ålderdomshem skulle man såklart reagera med avsky. Benoit var en av mina idoler. Det han gjorde var avskyvärt, men grejen är att det var riktigt oväntat och man därför inte riktigt vet hur man ska reagera. Jag kommer sakna honom som fan, och det hans familj råkade ut för var oförsvarbart.

Efter att ha läst inläggen så verkar det inte som att folk hedrar det han gjorde mot sin familj, utan det han gjorde i ringen. Det gör jag också bör tilläggas.

Och för att återknyta till Jay-Z-exemplet, skulle han göra en sådan sak skulle man aldrig hedra hans "road rage", utan snarare det andra han åstadkom i sin livstid.

Läs mellan raderna.

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Övriga pannor...

Skrev ett sjukt långt inlägg, så kukade datorn ut å inlägget försvann... ska försöka skriva ett kortare nu med ungf. samma innhåll.

Det är helt rätt att detta är ett forum. Stämmer utmärkt, dock är tråden namngiven "RIP Chris Benoit". Tråden heter inte: "Vad är fel på det amerikanska folket och varför mördar de sina barn" Den heter inte heller "Sinnessjuk mördare tar kål på sin famlilj, kom låt oss spotta" Den handlar inte om Paris Hiltons fängelsestraff och den handlar inte om Annika Östbergs fängelsestraff. Den här tråden är en vila i frid tråd för en av de största wrestlersen som någonsin varit i en ring. Ingen här har försvarat det han gjorde i slutet på sitt liv. Det är inte det som tråden handlar om. Det är fans till en preformer som sörjer hans och hans familjs livsöde.

Det är jättemånga jätteintressanta diskussioner som väcks, framförallt av Justshootme, men de hör inte hemma i den här tråden. Diskutera gärna vapenlagar, amerikanska medier, amerikansk inrikes och utrikespolitk, jättegärna, dock inte i Rip Chris Benoit tråden. Det hör inte hemma där. Man kan diskutera kändisskap och fripassen det ger i rättssystemet visst kan man det, men det här är en Rip Chris Benoit tråd, inte något annat.

Paris Hilton kunde gärna ruttna bort i fängelset för allt vad jag bryr mig, hon är ingen jag ser upp till och hon är inte ens ögongodis i mina ögon, hon suger helt enkelt. Vad hon gjort för sitt kändisskap kan jag inte för mitt liv begripa, Chris Benoit däremot, han wrestlade till sig sitt.

Annika Östberg är ett rättsfall som är helt sinnesrubbat, den diskutionen är viktig och det hade varit kanon om det kunde redas ut en gång för alla, även om det reds ut, förändras inte faktum att detta är en Rip Chris Benoit tråd.

Att tragiska saker händer runt om i USA är jättebull. att småbarn skjuter varandra i Boston (som helt säkert ligger i nordöstra USA) det är jättehemskt, men har väldigt lite med Rip Chris Benoit att göra.

Michel Moore är en kanon kille i mina ögon, jag tror på det mesta han säger och jag har sett alla hans filmer (även roger och jag) och läst en del av hans böcker samt sett hans tv-serie. Kritiken han har mot amerikansk inrikes och utrikes politik delar jag. Det är jätteintressanta diskussioner, men har väldigt lite med Rip Chris Benoit att göra.

En annan  sak, man kan inte jämföra USA med Sverige heller, genom att säga att man varje dag läser om nått vansinnesdåd i USA, det bor rätt mycket mer människor där, ska du ha någorlunda lik jämförelse så får du väl ta hela Europa då, men det kommer förmodligen ändå bli en övervikt av amerikanska vansinnesdåd, eftersom vapenlagar+inrikespolitik gör att människor lättare hamnar i desperata situationer och med vapenlagarna kan man lättare än i Sverige och många andra europeiska länder begå vansinneshandlingar, men det har inte heller med Rip Chris Benoit att göra.

Jag är från skåne, helt korrekt. Vad det har med Rip Chris Benoit är även det för mig helt främmande. Nått var på tok fel i hans liv och det fick hans familj och han själv betala med sina liv för. Det är en tragedi. Han kommer ej att dömmas eftersom han är död. Så det blir ingen ny OJ grej.

Sen måste jag säga lite som Staxxxi. Hade Jay-Z flippat och bankat ihjäl en folksamling pensionärer hade jag inte gillat det, men det förändrar inte min inställning till Jay-Z som artist.

Tupac har våldtagit (eller är åtminstonde dömd för det) han hyllas ändå, DMX lika så, hans fans diggar han ändå även om han är dömd för våldtäkt. Nu är ju våldtäkt inte mord, men det är ändå ett rätt jävla alvarligt brott.

Men den viktiga poängen är att detta är ett forum, helt rätt, men denna tråden är inte skapad för att diskutera ovanstående saker, den är till för Rip Chirs Benoit. För fans som sörjer hans och hans familjs livsöde. Bara för att det inte strider mot whoas regler betyder inte att det är lämpligt att sriva vad som helst i vilken tråd som helst för det.

Sen vem ni pissar på, Ja va ska man säga, jag ville inte ens ha nått svar från er. Så är ni färdiga nu, håller ni käften i den här tråden och lämnar den till de som sörjer Chris Benoit och hans familj?

Att hylla honom nu är ju vrickat, han döda sin familj..

Rip

naero: Det var ca 2 år sen eddie dog

Que-

att hylla 2pac e ju vrickat han våldtog en brud
att hylla dmx är ju vrickat han våldtog en brud
att hylla michel jackson är vrickat han är ju pedofil...

trotts det så är dom väl alla rätt så uppskattade som artister? vad är skillnaden på Chris Benoit?

Justshootme

menade inte att man bara skulle skriva rip, rip, rip... inte min poäng alls, men man får väl ändå föra diskussionen med vördnad och respekt för de fans som bryr sig? man kanske inte behöver dra in all annan bråte runt om i hela världen för att diskutera? att börja diskutera usa och vansinnesdåd i generella termer är väl kanske inte rätt tråd? inte heller att diskutera kändisskap och rättssamhällets hyckleri? Det är fullt möjligt att skapa andra trådar till de ändamål på forumet, behvöer inte diskutera allt i alla trådar...

Apeman: du är medveten om att MJ blev FRIAD i domstol? Han är alltså inte pedofil. SÅ sluta snälla.
Sorry för offtopic.


Jag respekterar iaf Benoits brottningskarriär, han är en av de bästa och kommer så förbli. Men däremot tycker jag illa om honom som privatperson för det han gjorde. Men jag kan inte hata honom helt, för jag respekterar allt han gjort i ringen, och det kan jag inte sluta göra bara för att han gjort något skithemskt i sitt privatliv.
Isåfall måste man ju hata alla artister som drogar o super ner sig , som trashar hotellrum och slåss på fester. Och vem fan gör det liksom...

Princess_S F22 hur kan du säga att du tycker illa om han som privatperson, kände du han? Jag tycker självklart inte det han gjorde var bra. Sen undrar jag hur ni kan ha en wrestler som idol? Vad är det för speciellt han har gjort en grym "Diving Headbutt", snälla förklara.

pelleper: han var en av de mer tekniska brottarna, dvs han använde mkt amatörbrottar-grepp. och jag tyckte han var otroligt duktig. han gjorde mer än en diving headbutt, han gjorde många olika suplexar osv. mkt chainwrestling, det gillar jag.

det är svårt att förklara fenomenet wrestling för någon som inte gillar det. men om man säger "va, hur kan du gilla Slash, han spelar ju bara gitarr, vafan är speciellt med det" till ett Kiss-fan så får man nog samam reaktion som när man säger vafan är kul med wrestling :)'

Nej jag kände honom itne privat, men jag menar att jag beundrade hans in-ring-skills och den han var på tv.

men eftersom han ströp sin fru och sin son så kan jag inte respektera honom privat, utanför ringen, eftersom det var fel att göra så. förstår du nu hur jag menar?
jag har inte träffat just Benoit, men många andra brottare i WWE. Och några jag reste med till showen fick träffa honom.

Princess_S F22

Du är medveten om att Michel ändå är pedofil? trotts den friande domen, lika så så är nog trotts den fridande domen OJ skyldig. Michel har gjort upp med barn och deras föräldrar vid sidan om, vilket man kanske inte hade gjort om man var oskyldig, men den här tråden handlar inte om det, så jag släpper det nu...

Justshootme

Nej jag är inte admin. Men som det har nämnts tidigare så är det inte särskillt lämpligt att gå in och skriva skit i trådar man egentligen inte är intresserad av. Jag går inte in i dina balett-trådar eller dina nascartrådar eller var fan du nu brukar hänga och skriver bajs i de trådarna! Jag scrollar snällt förbi dem och låter bli att sabba de diskussionerna. Än en gång, bara för att det inte är mot reglerna betyder inte att det är lämpligt att skriva allt överallt.

Du retade upp mig när du skrev att ingen visste vem han var och försökte förminska honom för alla som skrev i tråden, samt att du när det blev klart för dig att folk visste vem han var kallade wrestling för hjärndöd underhållning. Jag tycker det är direkt stötande att skriva så i den här tråden. Jag tar illa vid mig av ditt sätt att komunicera dina åsikter i den här tråden. Ville du skriva dom grejerna kunde du hålla dig i den andra wrestlingtråden, om du nu tvunget ville provocera folk där, eller alternativt startat en ny tråd som behandlade ämnet "wrestling - en hjärndöd form av underhållning" om du nu ville ha den diskussionen!

wrestling är inte det största i mitt liv, chris benoit var inte min idol och han var inte ens en gång min favoritbrottare, men det förändrar inte vad det här är för en tråd. Det här är ändå inte rätt tråd att lyfta de diskussionerna som du ville. Vad admin gör och inte gör kan kvitta, du visar noll "netiekett" här ändå. Jag kan vara spydig, jag kan vara hård, jag kan skriva sjukt provocerande saker, men jag väljer i alla fall i vilka trådar jag gör det med större vördnad än du. Jag gillar inte speedway, men jag går inte in i trådar som hyllar den där speedwayåkaren som dog för nån vecka sedan och kallar speedway för hjärndöd underhållning. Jag ifrågasätter heller inte om hans fans visste vem han var innan han dog. Nu är det andra omständigheter med chris benoit, han mördade sin familj, vilket kommer att demonisera honom för rätt mycket männsikor som inte kände till honom och vad han gjorde innan han blev familjemördaren chris benoit. men det förändrar inte att detta var en rip chris beniot tråd som du och andra bestämmde er för att sabotera för att ni inte kände till vem han var och vad han har betytt för wrestling och miljoner wrestlingfans.

är det någon i den här tråden som är ologisk så är det fan du.

Michael mördar inte sitt eget barn!

nä han knullar bara andras..

Tou-fucking-ché Apeman.


Känns för övrigt jävligt konstigt att WWE valt att totalt ignorera hans existens. Man förstår ju hur aktieägarna i företaget lackar ifall de blir sammankopplade med en mördare, men brottarna då? Han var ju trots allt deras vän.